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Integral World: Exploring Theories of Everything
An independent forum for a critical discussion of the integral philosophy of Ken Wilber
![]() Frank Visser, graduated as a psychologist of culture and religion, founded IntegralWorld in 1997. He worked as production manager for various publishing houses and as service manager for various internet companies and lives in Amsterdam. Books: Ken Wilber: Thought as Passion (SUNY, 2003), and The Corona Conspiracy: Combatting Disinformation about the Coronavirus (Kindle, 2020).
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![]() Public debate about the Ukraine war is beset by painful dilemmas. Calls for peace now can look like surrender to Russian aggression. Calls to defend Ukraine can seem like a willingness to prolong suffering. These tensions are real. But they are often muddled because the terms of debate collapse distinct questions into one another. To move beyond the trench warfare of opinion, we need to analytically separate three different layers: goals, means, and consequences. When each layer is discussed explicitly, disagreements become clearer, more honest, and less polarized. 1. Separate the Goal-Level Dilemma: What Outcome Do We Seek?Two legitimate aspirations get entangled: (A) A just and durable peace — meaning no reward for aggression and security for Ukraine. (B) An immediate end to violence — meaning fewer deaths, less destruction, and reduced risk of escalation. In public debate, these are too often treated as mutually exclusive, forcing people to choose between morality and humanitarianism. But these are two dimensions, not two camps. A society can value both justice and the minimization of suffering. Clarifying that these are separate aims helps avoid moral caricatures (“You want appeasement” vs. “You want endless war”). Debate discipline: 2. Separate the Means-Level Debate: What Policies Achieve Which Goals?Once the goals are spelled out, the next level is how to pursue them. This is where most confusion arises. Typical conflations:
These are means, not goals. Conflating them produces tribal reflexes rather than analysis. What good debate looks like:
Once the public sees that each policy is a tool rather than a moral identity badge, positions become less hysterical and more empirical. 3. Separate the Consequences-Level Debate: What Are the Forecasts and Trade-Offs?The hardest debates are about prediction.
These are empirical claims, not axioms. They must be treated as hypotheses that can be evaluated with evidence, analogies, and competing models of Russian behavior. Improving debate at this level means:
When the public recognizes we are dealing with uncertain forecasts—rather than crystal-clear futures—polarization decreases and humility returns. 4. Create a Shared Vocabulary to Reduce Tribal FramingA major barrier in the Ukraine debate is semantic: words like appeasement, NATO proxy war, peace lobby, or war hawk trigger tribal loyalties and shut down analysis. Proposed neutral terms:
With a shared vocabulary, people argue about the world, not about labels. 5. Introduce “Dual-Track Thinking”: Peace Track and Defense Track TogetherOne way to escape the binary is to normalize a dual framework: Defense Track: maintain military support for Ukraine to prevent collapse. Peace Track: maintain diplomatic channels, define negotiation red lines, and prepare for future settlement frameworks. Both tracks can operate simultaneously.
This mirrors Cold War diplomacy: deterrence did not preclude negotiations; in fact, it enabled them. Presenting them as parallel, not opposing tracks allows the public to understand that “defend” and “seek peace” are not mutually exclusive. 6. Use Counterfactuals to Test ClaimsPublic debate improves dramatically when people ask:
Debate stagnates because advocates rarely compare their preferred path to plausible alternatives. Encouraging explicit counterfactual analysis forces people to think like strategists, not cheerleaders. 7. Distinguish Moral Judgments from Strategic JudgmentsA final separation is essential: Moral judgments concern what is right:
Strategic judgments concern what works:
In debates these two levels are constantly conflated. Someone can morally oppose territorial concessions yet strategically believe they are inevitable. Someone can morally value Ukraine's sovereignty yet strategically doubt NATO's capacity for open-ended support. Honest debate requires acknowledging that moral clarity and strategic realism do not always align neatly—and that acknowledging this gap is not betrayal. Conclusion: From Binary to Structured DebateThe Ukraine war debate suffers because it stacks three dilemmas on top of each other and treats them as one:
By separating these layers—goal, means, consequence—public discourse can escape the sterile binary of “appeaser vs. warmonger.” Such separation doesn't magically resolve the dilemmas. But it does allow societies to confront them honestly, intelligently, and without the tribal fog that currently obscures one of Europe's most consequential debates.
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Frank Visser, graduated as a psychologist of culture and religion, founded IntegralWorld in 1997. He worked as production manager for various publishing houses and as service manager for various internet companies and lives in Amsterdam. Books: 