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Is the Tandem Trump/Musk establishing a Technofeudalism?A Closer Look into the Mind of GrokFrank Visser / GROK
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First ResponseThe idea of a "technofeudalism" led by Donald Trump and Elon Musk, with a supreme leader ruling via executive orders and bypassing Congress, draws from critiques of their recent actions and rhetoric but remains speculative and debated. Let's break it down based on available evidence and perspectives. Trump, as of March 19, 2025, has returned to the presidency and, alongside Musk, is pursuing an aggressive agenda to reshape the federal government. Musk, heading the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has been granted significant influence over federal workforce cuts, regulatory rollbacks, and spending reductions. Executive orders signed by Trump, such as those on February 11 and February 21, 2025, direct agencies to coordinate with DOGE, effectively centralizing power in the executive branch and sidelining congressional oversight in some areas. These moves align with a broader plan, outlined in Project 2025, to consolidate authority under the president, leveraging the "unitary executive" theory—a legal stance favored by the current Supreme Court majority, which sees executive branch employees as serving at the president's discretion. The term "technofeudalism," popularized by economist Yanis Varoufakis, describes a system where tech giants replace traditional capitalist markets with digital fiefdoms, wielding power through data and platforms rather than production. Critics, like those writing for Dialektika and Sidecar, argue that Musk's role—blending his corporate interests (Tesla, SpaceX, X) with government influence—mirrors this shift. His access to sensitive federal systems, like the Treasury's payment infrastructure, and his push to deregulate industries his companies dominate, fuel claims of a new feudal order where tech billionaires act as lords, extracting wealth and control from a dependent populace. Trump's reliance on Musk, a private citizen unelected by the public, amplifies this narrative, especially as DOGE's actions—like shuttering USAID or slashing federal jobs—bypass traditional legislative checks. However, this isn't unchallenged rule by decree. Congress retains constitutional authority over spending and agency creation, and lawsuits (e.g., from unions and Democratic states) are testing the legality of Trump and Musk's overreach. A federal judge's March 13, 2025, order demanding clarity on DOGE's authority signals judicial pushback. While the Republican-led Congress has so far acquiesced, midterms in 2026 could shift the balance, and states' rights provide another counterweight. The Supreme Court, though conservative, hasn't fully endorsed limitless executive power—rulings on cases like the Chevron doctrine's overturning still require statutory grounding for regulations, not just presidential whims. Sentiment on X and in articles from The Nation and The Washington Post paints a dystopian picture: Musk as a "Technoking" and Trump as his frontman, dismantling democracy for profit. Yet, this vision overstates their current grip. They're bending norms, not breaking the system entirely—Congress could still act, and public resistance is growing (e.g., federal worker rallies). "Supreme leader" implies absolute power they don't yet have; executive orders can be challenged or undone, as seen in Trump's first term. So, are they establishing technofeudalism? They're certainly centralizing control and prioritizing tech-driven wealth, bypassing Congress where possible. But it's not a done deal—legal, political, and social hurdles remain. It's a power grab with feudal echoes, not a fully realized new order. Yet.
![]() FURTHER ANALYSISKey PointsResearch suggests Trump and Musk are collaborating to centralize power, potentially establishing a technofeudalism where tech and executive authority dominate.
It seems likely that Trump's executive orders are bypassing Congress, reducing regulatory oversight with Musk's influence via the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). The evidence leans toward this being controversial, with legal challenges and critics warning of democratic erosion. BackgroundDonald Trump, back in office since early 2025, and Elon Musk, a tech billionaire leading companies like Tesla and X, have been working closely together. Musk's role in the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) gives him significant sway over federal operations, raising questions about power concentration. Collaboration and TechnofeudalismTechnofeudalism refers to a system where tech giants control economic and digital spaces, acting like modern feudal lords. Analysts, such as those at Dialektika, argue Trump's 2025 inauguration marked its rise, with Musk's prominence symbolizing tech's growing political role. Their collaboration includes Musk supporting policies that align with reducing government oversight, fitting the technofeudalism model. Executive Orders and Congressional BypassTrump has issued executive orders, like one on February 18, 2025, to dismantle independent agencies by routing regulations through the Office of Management and Budget, as detailed by The Nation. Another order, reported by The Washington Post, involves DOGE cutting federal jobs, potentially bypassing Congress. Legal challenges, with over 50 lawsuits, highlight the controversy, as noted in the same Washington Post article. Unexpected DetailAn unexpected aspect is Musk's public criticism of "unelected bureaucrats" on X, amplifying support for these orders, which could further entrench technofeudalism, as seen in discussions at The New Yorker. Report: Detailed Analysis of Trump, Musk, and TechnofeudalismThis report provides a comprehensive analysis of the collaboration between Donald Trump and Elon Musk, focusing on whether they are establishing a technofeudalism with a supreme leader ruling by executive orders bypassing Congress. The analysis is based on recent developments as of March 19, 2025, and draws from various sources to ensure a thorough understanding. Definition and Context of TechnofeudalismTechnofeudalism is a concept describing a system where economic and political power is centralized in the hands of a few tech giants, who dominate vast data resources and digital platforms, effectively acting as modern-day feudal lords. This idea has been articulated by scholars like Yanis Varoufakis in his book Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism, where he argues that digital platforms like Amazon have replaced traditional markets, turning them into "digital fiefdoms" controlled by single entities and their algorithms. Farhad Omar, as cited in Dialektika, defines it as "the centralization of economic power and control in the hands of a few tech giants who, through their dominance over vast data resources and digital platforms, have become the new lords of the global economy." In the context of Trump and Musk, technofeudalism suggests a fusion of technological and political power, where Musk's economic and digital dominance intersects with Trump's executive authority, potentially reshaping governance and economic structures. Trump and Musk's CollaborationSince Trump's return to office in early 2025, his relationship with Elon Musk has deepened, particularly through Musk's appointment to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). This role, as reported by PBS News, gives Musk significant influence over federal operations, including attending the signing of executive orders aimed at downsizing the federal workforce. Musk, known for his leadership of Tesla, SpaceX, and X, has become a central figure in Trump's administration, with The Washington Post noting his oversight of DOGE and his claims of transparency by posting actions on X. Their collaboration is evident in public events and policy alignments. For instance, during Trump's inauguration, tech leaders like Musk were given prominence, overshadowing political figures, as highlighted by Tehran Times. This has led analysts, such as those at Dialektika, to argue that Trump's 2025 inauguration marked the legitimization of technofeudalism, with Musk's role symbolizing the integration of technological power into political governance. Executive Orders and Bypassing CongressTrump has issued several executive orders that appear to bypass traditional congressional oversight, aligning with the idea of a supreme leader ruling unilaterally. One notable order, signed on February 18, 2025, aims to destroy independent regulatory agencies by routing all their regulations through the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), as detailed by The Nation. This order affects agencies like the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Federal Trade Commission (FTC), and Federal Elections Commission (FEC), removing their independence and subjecting them to presidential control without public comment or expert panels. The OMB is led by Russell Vought, known for creating Project 2025, which is seen as part of a broader strategy to centralize power. Another significant order, reported by The Washington Post, calls on federal agencies to work with DOGE to cut the existing workforce and limit future hiring, allowing agencies to hire one new employee for every four who leave, with exemptions for national security, public safety, law enforcement, and immigration enforcement. This order, signed with Musk present, further entrenches DOGE's influence over federal operations. These actions are seen as bypassing Congress, as they rely on executive authority rather than legislative processes. Legal challenges have been filed, with over 50 lawsuits against Trump's executive orders, as noted in the same Washington Post article. A federal judge temporarily barred DOGE from accessing Treasury Department data, indicating the contentious nature of these moves. Trump has pushed back against these judicial interventions, stating he will appeal, which could prolong the legal battles. Impact and ImplicationsThe collaboration between Trump and Musk has raised concerns about the erosion of democratic checks and balances. Critics, such as those at The New Yorker, describe this as a form of techno-fascism, where technology is used to centralize power and control narratives. The Atlantic discusses the rise of techno-authoritarianism, noting that key figures like Musk have warmed to illiberal ideas, potentially reshaping governance. Musk's influence extends beyond policy to shaping public perception, with his X posts criticizing "unelected bureaucrats" amplifying support for these orders. This aligns with the technofeudalism model, where tech leaders control digital spaces to influence political and economic outcomes. For example, IfYouCanKeepIt.org discusses how Musk has transformed X into a political megaphone, potentially making Trumpism difficult to dislodge through tech tools. Legal and Political ChallengesThe executive orders face significant legal scrutiny, with TIME reporting on potential violations of federal laws, such as granting Musk access to sensitive government systems. Representative Ilhan Omar, as noted on her website Omar.house.gov, has criticized these actions, highlighting concerns about data security and corruption, particularly with DOGE's influence over Treasury data. The Republican Congress's reluctance to challenge these orders, as mentioned in The Nation, suggests a lack of legislative pushback, further enabling the executive overreach. The Supreme Court is unlikely to overturn these orders, given support for the "unitary executive" doctrine, adding to the controversy. Detailed Comparison of Key ActionsTo organize the information, here is a table summarizing key executive orders and their implications:
This table highlights the pattern of executive actions aligning with Musk's influence and bypassing Congress. ConclusionBased on the evidence, it is clear that Trump and Musk are collaborating to establish a system that fits the description of technofeudalism, with Trump acting as a supreme leader ruling by executive orders that bypass Congress. Musk's technological and economic power, combined with Trump's executive authority, is centralizing control over governance and reducing regulatory oversight, raising concerns about democratic erosion. The controversy is evident in legal challenges and critical analyses, suggesting a significant shift in power dynamics as of March 19, 2025. Key Citations
![]() Grok's Reasoning ProcessFirst, I need to understand what the user is asking. The question is: "Is the tandem Trump/Musk establishing a technofeudalism with a supreme leader, who rules by executive orders bypassing congress?" This seems to be a complex political and economic question, involving concepts like technofeudalism, executive orders, and the roles of Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Let me break it down: Technofeudalism: This term might refer to a system where technology companies or tech-savvy individuals hold significant power, possibly akin to feudal lords, controlling resources and influencing society. Tandem Trump/Musk: This suggests a partnership or collaboration between Donald Trump, a former U.S. President, and Elon Musk, a billionaire entrepreneur known for companies like Tesla and SpaceX. Supreme leader ruling by executive orders bypassing congress: This implies a scenario where a leader uses executive powers to make decisions without the usual checks and balances provided by legislative bodies like Congress. To answer this, I need to: Understand what technofeudalism means in this context. Find out if there's any evidence or discussion about Trump and Musk working together in a way that could be seen as establishing such a system. Look for any actions or statements that might indicate a move towards ruling by executive orders bypassing Congress, possibly involving both Trump and Musk. Since this is a current events and political question, I should start with a web search to see if there are any recent articles, opinions, or analyses on this topic. Let me start with a web search. Searching... From the search results, I see several articles discussing the relationship between Trump and Musk, particularly in the context of executive orders and government efficiency. There are mentions of technofeudalism, which seems relevant to the user's question. Let me summarize the key points from the search results: The Nation article discusses an executive order aimed at destroying independent regulatory agencies, suggesting it's part of a larger plan involving Trump and Musk to control the state and benefit financially. TIME magazine reports on legal concerns regarding Trump's actions, including attempts to dismantle independent agencies and granting Elon Musk access to sensitive government systems. Representative Ilhan Omar's website provides a fact sheet on Trump's executive orders, highlighting legal concerns and the influence of Musk's DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency Service) over federal agencies. Dialektika discusses Trump and technofeudalism, describing it as a system where control over truth, perception, and agency lies with those who dominate technology and platforms. PBS News covers Trump signing an executive order to downsize the federal workforce, with Musk present, indicating his involvement in government operations. The Washington Post reports on Trump and Musk praising each other and promising cuts, with Musk describing himself as an open book despite concerns about his power. Another Washington Post article mentions Trump gutting Biden environmental rules and affecting the Voice of America parent, showing the breadth of executive actions. Yet another Washington Post piece talks about Trump signing an executive order to work with Musk's group, further entrenching Musk's influence. Reuters explains how Trump's Musk-led efficiency panel could slash federal agency rules, detailing the legal complexities involved. NBC News reports on Trump giving DOGE more power, with Musk present, indicating a deepening of their collaboration. From these results, it's clear that there is significant discussion about Trump and Musk working together, particularly through executive orders that bypass traditional congressional oversight. The concept of technofeudalism is also mentioned, suggesting a system where technological and economic power is concentrated in the hands of a few, potentially aligning with the user's question. To answer the user's question more thoroughly, I need to: Confirm what technofeudalism means in this context. See if there's direct evidence or analysis linking Trump and Musk to establishing such a system. Understand the implications of the executive orders mentioned, especially in terms of bypassing Congress. Let me first look into what technofeudalism is, as it's a key term in the question. I can browse the page from Dialektika, which seems to discuss Trump and technofeudalism directly. Browsing... From the Dialektika page, technofeudalism is defined as the centralization of economic power and control in the hands of a few tech giants who dominate vast data resources and digital platforms, effectively becoming the new lords of the global economy. Yanis Varoufakis describes it as a system where digital trade platforms replace traditional markets, turning them into "digital fiefdoms" controlled by single entities and their algorithms. In relation to Trump and Musk, the article suggests that Trump's 2025 inauguration marked the legitimization of techno-feudalism, with Musk playing a central role. Musk is described as the world's richest man, and his actions, such as a fascist salute during celebrations, are highlighted as examples of unaccountable power. The article argues that Trump and Musk control narratives and shape reality through their digital dominance, which aligns with the concept of technofeudalism. This seems to directly address the user's question about whether Trump and Musk are establishing a technofeudalism with a supreme leader ruling by executive orders bypassing Congress. To further verify, I should look into the specific executive orders mentioned in the search results, particularly those that involve Musk's DOGE (Department of Government Efficiency Service). Let me browse the page from The Nation, which discusses an executive order aimed at destroying independent regulatory agencies. Browsing... The executive order signed by Trump on February 18, 2025, aims to destroy independent regulatory agencies by routing all their regulations through the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). This move effectively removes the independence of agencies like the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), Federal Trade Commission (FTC), and Federal Elections Commission (FEC), subjecting them to presidential control without the usual processes of hearings, expert panels, or public comment. The Federal Reserve Board is notably excluded to prevent market instability and protect the financial interests of Trump's donor class. The OMB is currently led by Russell Vought, known for creating Project 2025, which is part of a broader strategy to centralize power and wealth. The executive order is seen as a legal challenge, with potential lawsuits difficult due to standing issues—only Congress has clear standing, but the current Republican Congress is unlikely to challenge it. The Supreme Court is also unlikely to overturn it, given Republican support for the "unitary executive" doctrine. Elon Musk is mentioned as supporting this order, frequently criticizing "unelected bureaucrats" on social media, which aligns with the administration's goals of reducing regulatory oversight. The order is described as part of a larger kleptocratic scheme to redirect national wealth to Trump and Musk, with Musk's influence and rhetoric playing a significant role in shaping public perception and policy. This information strongly suggests that Trump and Musk are collaborating to centralize power, reduce regulatory oversight, and potentially establish a system where executive power bypasses traditional checks and balances, aligning with the concept of technofeudalism. To further confirm, let's look at another source, perhaps the NBC News article, which mentions Trump giving DOGE more power. Browsing... It seems that the NBC News page is not accessible, possibly due to an error or restriction. Let's try another source, perhaps the Reuters article, which discusses how Trump's Musk-led efficiency panel could slash federal agency rules. Browsing... It appears that the Reuters page also doesn't provide the expected content, possibly due to JavaScript requirements or other access issues. Let's try the Washington Post article that mentions Trump signing an executive order to work with Musk's group. Browsing... From the Washington Post article, Trump's executive order calls on federal agencies to work with the U.S. DOGE Service, led by Elon Musk, to cut the existing workforce and limit future hiring. The policy allows agencies to hire one new employee for every four who leave, with exemptions for national security, public safety, law enforcement, and immigration enforcement. Musk, overseeing DOGE, has claimed transparency by posting actions on his platform, X, and has criticized agencies like USAID. There are also mentions of legal challenges, with over 50 lawsuits filed against Trump's executive orders, including one that temporarily blocked DOGE from accessing Treasury Department data. Trump has pushed back against these judicial interventions, indicating plans to appeal. This information further supports the idea that Trump and Musk are collaborating to centralize power and reduce government oversight, potentially aligning with the concept of technofeudalism. Given the information gathered, it seems that Trump and Musk are indeed working together to implement policies that concentrate power, reduce regulatory oversight, and potentially bypass traditional checks and balances, which could be interpreted as establishing a form of technofeudalism with a supreme leader ruling by executive orders. However, to ensure accuracy, I should also consider counterarguments or alternative perspectives. Let's see if there are any articles that might present a different view. Let me search for any criticisms or analyses that might contradict this interpretation. Searching... From the additional search results, I see several articles that discuss the concept of technofeudalism in relation to Trump and Musk, often critically. For example: The New Yorker article titled "Elon Musk, and How Techno-Fascism Has Come to America" discusses how Musk's influence under Trump's administration represents a form of techno-fascism, where technology is used to centralize power. Tehran Times mentions Trump's inauguration and the prominence given to tech leaders, suggesting the rise of technofeudalism where tech corporations dominate. The Atlantic talks about the rise of techno-authoritarianism, noting that key figures in Silicon Valley, including Musk, have warmed to illiberal ideas. IfYouCanKeepIt.org discusses how Musk and Trump could build a techno-autocracy, using tech tools to make Trumpism difficult to dislodge. These articles provide a critical perspective, suggesting that the collaboration between Trump and Musk is indeed leading towards a system where technology and executive power are used to centralize control, potentially bypassing traditional democratic checks. There are also more general articles on technofeudalism, such as those from NYMag and WIRED, which explain the concept as a system where tech giants act like feudal lords, controlling digital spaces and extracting value from users. Given this information, it seems that the user's question is being addressed by multiple sources, all pointing towards a similar conclusion: that Trump and Musk are indeed establishing a form of technofeudalism, where executive power and technological dominance are used to centralize control and bypass traditional legislative oversight. To wrap this up, I need to formulate a final answer based on the information gathered. First, let's confirm the key points: Technofeudalism is a system where tech giants control economic and digital spaces, akin to feudal lords. Trump and Musk are collaborating, with Musk given significant influence over government operations through DOGE. Executive orders are being used to centralize power, reduce regulatory oversight, and potentially bypass Congress. There are legal challenges, but the administration is pushing forward with these changes. Critics and analysts are warning about the rise of technofeudalism and techno-authoritarianism under this administration. Therefore, the answer to the user's question is yes, there is evidence suggesting that Trump and Musk are establishing a form of technofeudalism, with Trump acting as a supreme leader ruling by executive orders that bypass Congress, while Musk leverages his technological and economic power to influence government operations. Let me formulate the final answer.To determine whether the tandem of Trump and Musk is establishing a technofeudalism with a supreme leader ruling by executive orders bypassing Congress, I have analyzed the available information from various sources. Below is a step-by-step reasoning process based on the evidence gathered. Step 1: Understanding the Key ConceptsTechnofeudalism: This term refers to a system where economic and political power is centralized in the hands of a few tech giants, who control vast data resources and digital platforms, effectively acting as modern-day feudal lords. This concept has been discussed in academic and political contexts, particularly in relation to the influence of technology companies on society and governance. Tandem Trump/Musk: This refers to the collaboration between Donald Trump, the former U.S. President who returned to office in 2025, and Elon Musk, a billionaire entrepreneur known for his leadership of companies like Tesla, SpaceX, and X (formerly Twitter). Musk has been appointed to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), giving him significant influence over federal operations. Supreme leader ruling by executive orders bypassing Congress: This implies a scenario where a leader (in this case, Trump) uses executive powers to make decisions without the usual oversight or approval of Congress, potentially consolidating power in a way that undermines democratic checks and balances. The question, therefore, is whether Trump and Musk are working together to create a system where technofeudalism is established, with Trump acting as a supreme leader who bypasses Congress through executive orders. Step 2: Analyzing the EvidenceFrom the web search and subsequent browsing of relevant pages, the following key points emerge: 2.1: Definition of Technofeudalism and Its Relevance Technofeudalism is described as a system where tech giants dominate economic and digital spaces, controlling platforms and algorithms that shape markets and user behavior. For example: Farhad Omar defines it as "the centralization of economic power and control in the hands of a few tech giants who, through their dominance over vast data resources and digital platforms, have become the new lords of the global economy." Yanis Varoufakis, in his book Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism, argues that digital platforms like Amazon have replaced traditional markets, turning them into "digital fiefdoms" controlled by single entities. In the context of Trump and Musk, technofeudalism suggests a system where technological and economic power (Musk's domain) is intertwined with political power (Trump's domain), potentially centralizing control over both the economy and governance. 2.2: Trump and Musk's Collaboration Trump has appointed Musk to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), giving him unprecedented access to federal operations, including sensitive data from the Treasury Department. Musk has been involved in high-profile events with Trump, such as attending the signing of executive orders aimed at downsizing the federal workforce and reducing regulatory oversight. Trump has signed executive orders that align with Musk's stated goals, such as: An order to dismantle independent regulatory agencies (e.g., SEC, FTC) by routing their regulations through the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), effectively stripping them of independence. An order giving DOGE more power to cut federal jobs and limit hiring, with Musk overseeing the process. Musk has publicly supported these actions, criticizing "unelected bureaucrats" and aligning with Trump's agenda to reduce government oversight. 2.3: Executive Orders and Bypassing Congress Trump has used executive orders to implement significant changes without congressional approval, including: Dismantling independent regulatory agencies, which are meant to operate independently of direct presidential control. Granting DOGE (and by extension, Musk) influence over federal agencies, including access to sensitive data. Proposing massive workforce reductions and hiring freezes across federal agencies, with exemptions for specific areas like national security and immigration enforcement. These actions are seen as bypassing Congress, as they rely on executive authority rather than legislative processes. Legal challenges have been filed against these orders, but Trump has pushed back, indicating he will appeal court rulings. 2.4: Criticisms and Analysis of Technofeudalism Critics argue that the collaboration between Trump and Musk represents a form of technofeudalism or techno-authoritarianism: Articles from The New Yorker and The Atlantic discuss the rise of techno-fascism and techno-authoritarianism, where technology is used to centralize power and control narratives. Dialektika explicitly links Trump's 2025 inauguration to the legitimization of technofeudalism, with Musk playing a central role due to his technological and economic dominance. Tehran Times and other sources highlight the prominence of tech leaders at Trump's inauguration, suggesting a shift toward technofeudalism where tech corporations act as modern rulers. Legal and political analysts have raised concerns about the legality and implications of these actions, noting that they could erode democratic checks and balances by concentrating power in the hands of a few. 2.5: Counterarguments or Alternative Perspectives While there are criticisms of the Trump-Musk collaboration, no significant counterarguments were found that refute the idea of technofeudalism. Instead, the focus is on the legal challenges and potential overreach of executive power, which indirectly support the notion that traditional democratic processes are being undermined. Step 3: ConclusionBased on the evidence gathered: Technofeudalism is a system where tech giants control economic and digital spaces, and there is clear evidence that Musk's influence aligns with this concept. Trump and Musk are collaborating closely, with Musk given significant power over federal operations through DOGE. Trump is using executive orders to centralize power, reduce regulatory oversight, and bypass Congress, which aligns with the idea of a "supreme leader" ruling without legislative checks. Critics and analysts consistently describe this collaboration as a move toward technofeudalism or techno-authoritarianism, where technological and economic power are used to consolidate political control. Therefore, the answer to the user's question is: Final AnswerYes, there is evidence suggesting that the tandem of Trump and Musk is establishing a form of technofeudalism, with Trump acting as a supreme leader who rules by executive orders bypassing Congress. This is supported by: Trump's use of executive orders to dismantle independent regulatory agencies and centralize control over federal operations. Musk's role in leading DOGE, which gives him significant influence over government efficiency and access to sensitive data. The broader concept of technofeudalism, where tech giants like Musk control digital and economic spaces, aligning with the centralized power dynamics observed under Trump's administration. Citations: The Nation: "This Executive Order Reveals the Trump-Musk Endgame" Dialektika: "Trump and Technofeudalism" The Washington Post: "Trump signs executive order calling on agencies to work with Elon Musk-led group"
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