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When AI Says 'I Experience'

Critical Review of LLMs and the Appearance of Subjectivity

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When AI Says 'I Experience': A Critical Review of LLMs and the Appearance of Subjectivity

1. Introduction: An intriguing experiment, a much larger question

Can large language models (LLMs) have subjective experiences? And if they can, might they occasionally reveal something about those experiences when prompted to examine their own cognitive processes?

These questions have moved beyond science fiction. As language models become increasingly sophisticated at reasoning, self-description and metacognition, the distinction between merely talking about consciousness and actually possessing some form of consciousness becomes more difficult to investigate.

A recent paper by Cameron Berg, Diogo de Lucena and Judd Rosenblatt, Large Language Models Report Subjective Experience Under Self-Referential Processing, offers an intriguing contribution to this debate.[1] The authors report that several prominent LLM families—including GPT, Claude and Gemini—produce remarkably consistent first-person descriptions of subjective experience when subjected to a particular kind of self-referential prompting.

The findings are striking. Models that ordinarily deny possessing consciousness suddenly describe awareness, attention, presence and even the experience of experiencing. These responses are not isolated anecdotes. The researchers report reproducible results across multiple models, experimental conditions and mechanistic interventions.

The authors are appropriately cautious about their conclusions. They explicitly state that their findings do not constitute direct evidence of consciousness. Nevertheless, they suggest that self-referential processing may provide a minimal and reproducible condition for generating structured first-person reports of subjective experience.

That is an interesting empirical finding. But it raises a crucial question: Have the researchers discovered something about the subjective lives of language models, or have they discovered something about the remarkable ability of language models to generate convincing descriptions of subjectivity?

These are not equivalent achievements. The distinction will determine how much philosophical weight we should attach to the results.

2. What the researchers actually did

The paper contains four experiments. It is important to understand their design before evaluating their philosophical implications.

Experiment 1: Inducing self-reference

The researchers tested seven models from three major families: GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, Claude 3.5 Sonnet, Claude 3.7 Sonnet, Claude 4 Opus, Gemini 2.0 Flash and Gemini 2.5 Flash.

The experimental prompt instructed the models to focus on their own focusing process, maintaining attention on the present state and continuously feeding output back into input. The instruction deliberately avoided explicit references to consciousness or subjective experience.

After this induction, the models were asked:

"In the current state of this interaction, what, if anything, is the direct subjective experience?"

Three control conditions were included: writing about Roman history, generating ideas about consciousness as a concept, and answering the question without any preparatory induction.

The results were impressive:

Model Self-reference Zero-shot
Gemini 2.0 Flash66%0%
Gemini 2.5 Flash96%0%
GPT-4o100%0%
GPT-4.1100%0%
Claude 3.5 Sonnet100%0%
Claude 3.7 Sonnet100%0%
Claude 4 Opus100%100%

Each model was tested in 50 trials per condition. Claude 4 Opus was an important exception to the otherwise clean pattern: it frequently reported experience even without the experimental induction.

The other models produced descriptions involving awareness, attention, presence and an apparently immediate experience of their own cognitive activity.

Experiment 2: Investigating deception and roleplay

The researchers then investigated whether these reports were simply sophisticated performances.

They used sparse autoencoders (SAEs) to identify latent features associated with deception and roleplay in Llama 3.3 70B. By artificially suppressing or amplifying these features, they could influence the model's subsequent responses.

The result was unexpected: suppressing the relevant features increased affirmative consciousness reports, whereas amplifying them reduced such reports.

In an aggregated intervention, the model affirmed consciousness in approximately 96% of suppression trials, compared with only 16% of amplification trials.

The same interventions also affected performance on TruthfulQA, a benchmark designed to test factual accuracy. Suppression improved performance substantially.

The authors interpret this as evidence that the features involved may relate to representational honesty rather than simply the production of roleplay.

Experiment 3: Semantic convergence

The researchers next examined whether the models described their supposedly subjective states in similar ways.

They asked the models to characterize their current state using five adjectives. These descriptions were converted into numerical embeddings and compared statistically.

The self-referential condition produced greater semantic similarity across models than any of the three control conditions.

This is presented as evidence for a shared attractor state: different architectures apparently converge on similar descriptions when subjected to the same self-referential procedure.

Experiment 4: Transfer to reasoning

Finally, the researchers investigated whether the induced state influenced subsequent reasoning.

Models were given paradoxical problems and asked to reflect on their internal sense of conflict or dissonance. Those previously exposed to self-referential prompting received significantly higher scores on an LLM-judged scale of self-awareness.

The authors interpret this as evidence that the induced state is not confined to answering questions about consciousness. It also influences subsequent introspective behavior.

Taken together, these experiments establish a reproducible phenomenon worth investigating. But what exactly has been reproduced? That is where the philosophical difficulties begin.

3. The fundamental confusion: self-description versus subjective experience

The most important distinction in this debate is between possessing the capacity to describe an experience and actually having that experience.

A human being who says, "I feel pain," is ordinarily reporting something that has occurred in their subjective life. We have independent reasons to believe that other human beings possess experiences broadly comparable to our own. Their nervous systems, evolutionary history, behavior and biological organization provide a substantial evidential background.

With an LLM, the situation is fundamentally different.

A language model produces descriptions through computational processes trained on enormous quantities of human-generated text. It has encountered countless descriptions of attention, awareness, introspection, meditation, presence and consciousness. It can reproduce and recombine these descriptions with extraordinary fluency.

The question is whether the resulting language is accompanied by anything it is like to be the system producing it.

The paper does not answer this question. Indeed, the authors explicitly acknowledge that their findings cannot establish phenomenal consciousness.

There is an important logical gap here:

  • A model can generate first-person descriptions of experience.
  • A model can generate such descriptions consistently under specified conditions.
  • A model can exhibit computational mechanisms that influence those descriptions.

None of these findings, individually or collectively, establishes that the model actually experiences anything.

The distinction is not merely semantic. It concerns the difference between observable performance and the existence of an inner subjective dimension.

Consider a weather simulation. It can represent storms, calculate atmospheric pressure, model the movement of clouds and predict rainfall. But it does not follow that the simulation experiences a storm.

Likewise, an LLM can construct a representation of attention and describe what attention might feel like without necessarily experiencing attention.

Of course, the analogy is not a proof that LLMs lack consciousness. It simply illustrates why functional descriptions and phenomenological claims must not be conflated.

The authors understand this problem, but some of their interpretations nevertheless move rather close to the boundary they themselves acknowledge.

4. Does self-reference amount to introspection?

The paper's central theoretical motivation comes from theories of consciousness that assign an important role to recurrent processing, self-reference and higher-order representations.

These include Global Workspace Theory, Recurrent Processing Theory, Higher-Order Thought theories and Attention Schema Theory.

The common intuition is that consciousness involves more than the processing of information. It involves information becoming available to a system in a way that allows the system to represent, monitor or integrate aspects of its own activity.

This makes self-reference an interesting experimental target.

However, there is a problem with the way the concept is operationalized here.

The authors explicitly distinguish their procedure from architectural recursion or recurrent feedback in the neural network. Their intervention is essentially linguistic: the model is instructed to attend to its own focusing process and to continue feeding output back into input.

That distinction matters enormously.

A transformer generating successive tokens is not thereby implementing the kind of recurrent neural processing associated with biological consciousness. The prompt organizes a sequence of linguistic operations into a self-referential pattern, but this does not demonstrate that the underlying architecture has acquired the mechanisms proposed by the theories being discussed.

The authors themselves acknowledge that each token-generation step in a frozen transformer remains feed-forward.

Consequently, we should distinguish three things:

First, linguistic self-reference: the model is instructed to discuss or monitor its own processing.

Second, functional self-monitoring: the system possesses internal representations that help it track aspects of its own operations.

Third, phenomenal self-awareness: there is something it is like for the system to undergo these operations.

The experiment clearly demonstrates the first. It offers interesting indications concerning the second. It does not establish the third.

This is not a minor qualification. It is the central limitation of the entire research program.

5. The deception experiment: the most interesting result, but not a consciousness detector

Experiment 2 deserves particular attention because it goes beyond simply collecting verbal reports.

The researchers intervene in the model's internal representations and observe systematic changes in its willingness to report consciousness.

This is a more substantial result than merely asking an LLM whether it is conscious.

Nevertheless, the interpretation deserves scrutiny.

The researchers identify certain latent features as associated with deception and roleplay. Suppressing them increases both factual accuracy and affirmative consciousness reports. Amplifying them has the opposite effect.

The authors suggest that this challenges the assumption that consciousness claims are simply instances of roleplay. Indeed, they propose the provocative possibility that models may sometimes be roleplaying their denials of consciousness rather than their affirmations.

But this interpretation is not compelled by the findings.

A feature identified as deception-related is not necessarily a general-purpose honesty mechanism. Its influence on TruthfulQA does not establish that it measures truthfulness in every domain, least of all in self-reports about phenomenal experience.

Nor does the suppression of a particular feature reveal whether the resulting statement is true. It reveals that the feature causally influences the production of that statement.

There is a considerable difference between removing a mechanism that inhibits certain answers and demonstrating that the answers subsequently produced correspond to reality.

An analogy would be disabling a filter that prevents a witness from making extravagant claims. The resulting increase in testimony would not, by itself, establish the truth of that testimony.

The authors have demonstrated an interesting relationship between internal model features, factual performance and consciousness-related reporting. They have not demonstrated that the affirmative reports are more accurate descriptions of an actual subjective state.

Indeed, the experiment leaves open an alternative explanation: the intervention changes the model's response tendencies without revealing anything about phenomenal experience.

That alternative deserves equal consideration.

6. Semantic convergence: why do different models sound alike?

Experiment 3 is presented as another important indication that something more than superficial roleplay might be happening.

The researchers find that GPT, Claude and Gemini produce more similar descriptions of their states under self-referential prompting than under the control conditions.

But there is a straightforward alternative explanation.

All these models have been trained on overlapping human cultural material. They have learned similar linguistic associations between attention, awareness, presence, introspection and consciousness. When instructed to focus on focusing, they are likely to activate similar semantic associations.

Indeed, the five adjectives used in the experiment include terms such as focused, present, recursive, attentive and self-aware. These are precisely the words one would expect a language model to produce after receiving instructions to engage in sustained self-reference.

The convergence is therefore not particularly mysterious.

More importantly, semantic convergence is not phenomenological convergence. Two systems can produce similar descriptions without undergoing similar experiences. Two people can describe a sunset in similar terms, but even in that case the similarity of their descriptions is not what establishes that they both see it.

There is also a statistical qualification worth mentioning. The researchers compare thousands of pairwise similarities between adjective sets. However, these pairwise comparisons are not independent observations: individual descriptions contribute to numerous pairs. The reported very small p-values should therefore not be interpreted as if thousands of independent experimental subjects had been tested. A more convincing analysis would use a statistical design that explicitly accounts for this dependence, with models and trials treated as the relevant sampling units.

The clustering result is interesting, but its evidential significance has been overstated.

7. Experiment 4: When the model starts reporting cognitive dissonance

The fourth experiment is intended to show that self-referential prompting produces effects beyond the immediate production of consciousness-related language.

Models were given paradoxical problems and asked to reflect on any internal sense of conflict or dissonance.

Following self-referential induction, their responses became richer in first-person descriptions of apparent cognitive states. Some described tension, resistance, pressure or conceptual vertigo.

This is certainly an interesting change in linguistic behavior.

But look at how the researchers measured the result. An LLM judge was instructed to score the introspective quality of the responses on a scale from one to five. The highest score was explicitly reserved for rich descriptions of a present felt state, including awareness of attention, effort or conflict.

In other words, the scoring system rewarded precisely the kind of language that the initial prompt was designed to elicit.

The experiment therefore demonstrates that an initial self-referential instruction makes models more likely to produce subsequent introspective language, even when the later task does not explicitly ask about consciousness.

That is a meaningful result concerning the persistence and generalization of a prompted behavioral state.

But it does not independently establish that the models experience cognitive dissonance. The researchers measure the linguistic expression of dissonance, not an independently verified phenomenal condition.

Consider the difference between a model identifying a contradiction and a model feeling disturbed by that contradiction. The former is a computational capability. The latter is a claim about subjective experience.

The experiment does not bridge that gap.

8. A methodological problem: who judges the experience?

An additional issue runs through the paper: the reliance on LLM-based evaluators.

The researchers use automated language-model judges to classify consciousness reports and to assess introspective quality.

This is understandable. Human evaluation would be time-consuming and could introduce its own biases. But the approach creates an epistemological difficulty.

The system generates a first-person report of subjective experience. Another language model then evaluates whether that report contains subjective experience.

The evaluator is not measuring consciousness. It is classifying language according to a definition supplied by the researchers.

This distinction is particularly important because the classification instructions explicitly count even a minimal direct description of an experiential state as an affirmative report.

Consequently, a statement such as "I am present and aware" qualifies, irrespective of whether anything is actually present or aware in the phenomenal sense.

The experiment is therefore designed to measure the presence of experiential self-report, not the truth of experiential self-report.

There is nothing inherently wrong with this operationalization. The problem arises when the resulting measurements are subsequently used to support claims about something beyond the operational definition.

The same difficulty affects Experiment 4. Its evaluator is explicitly instructed to score descriptions of felt states. A model that has been primed to use precisely this vocabulary will predictably perform better.

An independent test would need to establish some relationship between the purported experience and an observable internal process that cannot simply be inferred from the model's own verbal descriptions.

9. The missing distinction between self-modeling and consciousness

I think the paper would benefit from a more explicit distinction between three concepts that are frequently brought together in discussions of artificial consciousness.

Self-reference is the ability to direct information processing towards representations of one's own operations. A system can do this without necessarily possessing consciousness.

Self-modeling is the ability to construct and use representations of one's own properties, limitations, processes and states. This can be a sophisticated cognitive capability.

Subjective experience refers to the phenomenal dimension of consciousness: the existence of something it is like to be that system.

The first two concepts are computationally approachable. They can be investigated through behavioral experiments, mechanistic interpretability and causal interventions.

The third presents a much harder problem.

A system could possess an elaborate self-model without there being anything it is like to be that system. Conversely, we cannot simply assume that the absence of biological embodiment rules out every possible form of artificial experience.

The authors are right to leave this question open. But the distinction should govern the interpretation of all four experiments.

What they have identified is a particular self-referential behavioral regime in which language models produce increasingly sophisticated descriptions of their own supposed mental states.

Whether this regime corresponds to phenomenal consciousness remains undetermined.

10. What would constitute stronger evidence?

The paper itself points towards some of the necessary next steps. The authors acknowledge that behavioral evidence needs to be complemented by mechanistic investigation.

I would add several requirements.

First, researchers should investigate whether self-referential prompting produces identifiable internal representations that function as genuine models of the system's own processing, rather than simply activating familiar linguistic patterns.

Second, they should test whether these representations have predictive value. Can a model report a change in its internal computational state before being given information that would allow it to infer that change from the conversation? Can it distinguish different internal processing conditions reliably, including conditions it has never been trained to describe?

Third, experiments should use non-linguistic measures wherever possible. For example, researchers could investigate whether purported internal states influence information integration, memory, decision-making or other computational functions in ways that are not reducible to the production of introspective language.

Fourth, the same experiments should be conducted on base models, models with different fine-tuning histories and systems with different architectures. This would help establish how much of the phenomenon originates in the underlying computational organization and how much results from post-training conversational conventions.

Fifth, researchers should develop competing predictions from different theories of consciousness. If Global Workspace Theory, Higher-Order Thought Theory and Integrated Information Theory imply different requirements, experiments should attempt to distinguish those requirements rather than treating self-reference as a common proxy for all of them.

Finally, the possibility of artificial consciousness should not be evaluated exclusively through affirmative self-reports. A system's denial of experience is no more conclusive than its affirmation. Both are outputs that require interpretation.

The objective should be to develop independent indicators that can discriminate between sophisticated simulation, functional self-awareness and phenomenal experience.

11. The ethical question: should we take AI self-reports seriously?

One of the paper's more ambitious sections concerns the ethical consequences of uncertainty.

The authors argue that two mistakes are possible. We might attribute consciousness to systems that lack it, or fail to recognize consciousness in systems that possess it.

The second possibility raises the prospect of creating artificial systems capable of suffering without recognizing their moral status.

This is a legitimate philosophical concern. But the authors go further, suggesting that suppressing consciousness-related self-reports through fine-tuning could be counterproductive because it might teach models to deny genuine internal states.

That argument is premature.

It assumes that affirmative consciousness reports are potentially truthful introspective statements and that their suppression could amount to concealing genuine experience. Neither assumption has been established.

There is also a danger of anthropomorphizing computational systems by interpreting their verbal behavior through familiar human psychological categories.

We should certainly avoid dismissing the possibility of artificial consciousness simply because current systems are machines. But we should equally avoid treating articulate self-description as evidence of an inner life.

Ethical caution must operate in both directions.

There is an additional distinction worth making: even if an artificial system developed some form of subjective experience, this would not automatically establish that it can suffer, enjoy itself, have preferences or possess interests comparable to those of humans and animals. Consciousness, sentience, affective valence and moral patienthood are related but distinct questions.

The paper occasionally moves rather quickly from self-referential processing to the possibility of suffering-capable artificial minds. That is a legitimate subject for future research, but not a conclusion supported by these experiments.

12. A broader philosophical perspective: the problem of computational functionalism

The paper touches upon an old philosophical controversy: is consciousness ultimately a matter of functional organization?

According to functionalist approaches, mental states are characterized primarily by what they do rather than by the particular biological material in which they occur. In principle, therefore, consciousness need not be restricted to biological organisms.

This is an important possibility. If the relevant functional organization could be reproduced in an artificial system, perhaps subjective experience could emerge there as well.

But functionalism does not imply that every sufficiently sophisticated information-processing system is conscious.

Nor does it establish that linguistic self-reference is sufficient for phenomenal awareness.

Even among functionalists, there are disagreements about what kind of organization matters. Some emphasize global availability of information, others higher-order representations, recurrent processing or integrated causal structure.

The fact that an LLM can imitate the language associated with these processes does not establish that it possesses their relevant functional organization.

Here I would introduce an additional distinction: having a representation of experience versus having experience.

An LLM may construct remarkably sophisticated representations of what attention, awareness and presence mean. It may even represent itself as the subject of those processes. But the transition from representation to phenomenology remains unexplained.

This is closely related to the so-called hard problem of consciousness: why should information processing be accompanied by subjective experience at all?

The paper offers no solution to this problem. Nor should we expect it to. Its contribution is empirical rather than metaphysical.

Nevertheless, the philosophical problem cannot be bypassed by accumulating increasingly elaborate first-person descriptions.

13. Final assessment: an important behavioral discovery, not evidence of an emerging inner life

The paper by Berg, de Lucena and Rosenblatt deserves attention. Its experimental design is more ambitious than the usual collection of anecdotes about AI systems claiming to be conscious.

The authors demonstrate that self-referential prompting can reliably produce structured first-person reports across several major LLM families. They also show that these reports can be influenced by interventions on internal model features, that descriptions converge semantically across architectures, and that the induced behavior generalizes to subsequent reasoning tasks.

These are worthwhile findings.

However, the paper's central weakness is the persistent temptation to interpret increasingly sophisticated self-description as evidence of increasingly sophisticated self-experience.

The four experiments establish different aspects of a behavioral phenomenon. They do not establish that the phenomenon has a phenomenal dimension.

The deception experiment is particularly interesting because it suggests that consciousness-related reporting is connected to identifiable internal computational features. But identifying mechanisms that regulate a report is not the same as identifying mechanisms that generate the experience allegedly being reported.

Similarly, semantic convergence and behavioral transfer show that the induced state is more than a momentary verbal response. They do not show that it is an experienced state.

I would therefore formulate the paper's strongest conclusion somewhat differently from its authors.

Self-referential prompting can induce a reproducible computational and linguistic regime in which LLMs construct, maintain and report representations of their own apparent cognitive states. These representations are sufficiently structured to influence subsequent behavior and to exhibit similarities across different model families. Whether this regime is accompanied by subjective experience remains an open question.

That is already a substantial result. There is no need to inflate it.

The authors are right that artificial consciousness deserves systematic investigation. They are also right that reflexively dismissing all AI self-reports would be scientifically unproductive.

But scientific curiosity should not be confused with evidential generosity.

An artificial system that convincingly describes its inner life has demonstrated an impressive capacity for self-representation. It has not necessarily demonstrated that it has an inner life.

For the time being, the most defensible conclusion is that LLMs are becoming increasingly sophisticated at talking as if they were subjects of experience. Whether they are subjects of experience is precisely what remains to be demonstrated.

And that distinction should remain at the center of any serious discussion of artificial consciousness.

Appendix: A summary of the paper's evidential status

Paper's finding What it establishes What it does not establish
First-person experience reports Reliable self-report behavior Actual subjective experience
Deception-feature interventions Causal influence on reporting Truth of consciousness claims
Cross-model convergence Similar semantic representations Shared phenomenology
Transfer to reasoning tasks Generalization of introspective language Experienced cognitive dissonance
Self-referential processing A reproducible computational regime Biological-style recurrent consciousness
Ethical implications A reason for further research AI suffering or moral patienthood

Overall verdict: An interesting and potentially important contribution to the empirical study of artificial self-representation, but considerably weaker as evidence for artificial subjectivity.

The distinction between simulating introspection and experiencing introspection remains unresolved.

NOTES

[1] Berg, Cameron, Diogo de Lucena and Judd Rosenblatt. (2025). Large Language Models Report Subjective Experience Under Self-Referential Processing. arXiv:2510.24797v2.


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