INTEGRAL WORLD MAILING LIST http://www.integralworld.net Newsletter Nr. 693 Amsterdam, December 19, 2017 CREATIVE INTEGRAL FRICTION - A Conversation Between David Long and Corey W. DeVos - DAVID LONG Dear Corey, I have summarized all your points in a way that I hope is true to your original post. If I missed anything or got anything wrong, please let me know. My summary looks like this (but I will also quote you in places as well): Heat / respect / good interpersonal hygiene Busyness/ Corey didn’t respond to David’s points / Ken’s greatest contribution is a solid integral methodology A *metatheory*, by its nature is “content free”. Ken’s view when he uses his methodology is his other contribution Ken’s library is big and he has read a lot Corey sees David’s criticisms of what Ken presents as his Integral view as “picking nits”: It’s silly, calling yourself “more integral” than the guy who invented the methodology It’s not a cult of personality Many of his critics are strawmaning him, or are caught in some little detail. All philosophers have been wrong at some point. Who cares? To see the original post, and Corey’s Response that I am referencing as well as the conversations that led up to this click here: I have been thinking a lot about how to best respond to you, and because I have been busy, it has taken me a little while to get back to you. Sorry about that. I decided to make this a “Note” so we can better comment, share, and find it. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/long1.html