Van: "Integral World" Aan: Onderwerp: Integral Hollywood Datum: donderdag 16 oktober 2014 16:38 INTEGRAL WORLD MAILING LIST =========================== http://www.integralworld.net Newsletter Nr. 527 Amsterdam, October 16th, 2014 THE INTEGRAL MOVEMENT IS A LOT LIKE HOLLYWOOD - Nobody Knows Anything - CONRAD GOEHAUSEN The truth is, no one really knows why some religious or philosophical movements succeed, except through Monday Morning Quarterbacking. We have to simply point out the obvious—some people just get lucky. Of course, it helps if you're a great self-promoter, like Tony Robbins, who could probably have mass-marketed the Hale-Bopp cult on late-night infomercials if he'd been so inclined. But even Tony Robbins happened to come along at the right time with the right set of ideas that just happened to take off—and even then, it's not as if the world is converting to "The Giant Within" any time soon. He found a niche market, exploited it, and made a killing. Many others with equal talent and equally good or bad ideas have tried to do the same, and failed. There were thousands of prophets in the Middle East at the time of Jesus, and we like to think that Jesus succeeded because he was the best of the lot, but there's no guarantee of that at all. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/goehausen3.html REPLY TO WILBER ON METAPHYSICS OF EVOLUTION - CONRAD GOEHAUSEN So, Wilber's theory is that there is an immanent driving force within all beings from the tiniest amoeba to the most advanced human that thirsts for greater and greater inclusion, and ultimately, perfect realization. Why does Wilber think that? Well, let me speculate that first of all it's because Wilber himself feels this thirst. He also notices it in other people. And as he looks at the various structures and processes of nature, he sees a similar pattern, of growth and complexity and greater self-awareness, and thus assumes a similar drive within the consciousness of each being. This seems natural enough. It is “common sense”, which is my assessment of how Wilber operates in most things. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/goehausen2.html FROM THE ARCHIVES: THE MUSLIM LADDER - The Infinite Ladder: An Introduction to Integral Religious Studies, Chapter 9 - DUSTIN DIPERNA On one side of the street, the current situation in the Middle East parallels circumstances during the Western Renaissance with the Catholic Church. That is, a mythic form of Islam pervades the mainstream, preventing anything that looks like a rational Islam from emerging. On the other side of the street, the present situation faces brand new challenges. Unlike evolving forms of Christianity in the 1500s that could rebel against the Catholic Church, there is not a single governing body within the Islamic faith against which more advanced intellectuals can rebel. This exacerbates the problem. Instead of focusing an orange rebellion on an institution (as did the rational Christians), Islamic rationalists appear, from the perspective of those at mythic stages, to be rebelling against the Qur'an or worse, against Allah. Our integral awareness uncovers that in actuality, rational adherents are rebelling against only mythic forms of the religion and not the faith itself. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/diperna03.html To SUBSCRIBE to this Integral World Newsletter or change your email address, click here: http://www.integralworld.net/pommo/user/subscribe.php To UNSUBSCRIBE, update your account by logging in. For explanation, see: http://www.integralworld.net/nl_faq.html