Van: "Integral World" Aan: Onderwerp: Wilber Triple Datum: dinsdag 12 november 2013 15:39 INTEGRAL WORLD MAILING LIST =========================== http://www.integralworld.net Newsletter Nr. 473 Amsterdam, November 12th, 2013 Three essays on Ken Wilber's role within the integral movement. Now don't say too quickly, "oh, that was back in 2005, we've now moved on." Reflection is timelessly needed, always. You are welcome to join. DON'T PISS ON MY LEG, AND TELL ME IT'S RAINING, MR. WILBER - A Late Reflection on Wyatt Earp - Martin Erdmann Ken Wilber entitled this article "What We Are, That We See", which is an observation taken from Ralph Waldo Emerson, round which the article has been built. In his exposition Ken Wilber makes use of his Zen sword of prajna to slay the heads of his critics, whom he sees as "Partial-Ass Pervs". As Ken Wilber too is what he sees, he must see himself as a Partial-Ass Perv now, and so must we—to take him seriously. Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/erdmann7.html ON KEN WILBER - Hopelessly New Age, Hopeless for the Humanities - Matthew Dallman So let me start this way. I have met brilliant people. In Wilber, I have never met a more brilliant-sounding person. I have also never met a more self-absorbed person. Perhaps the two go hand in hand, and I'm open to the possibility of that necessity. He did, after all, write the book on "boomeritis" as well as the book on "integral psychology", which is clearly speculative-based but in likelihood will be influential in some manner, at least as a conversation-starter (like beer with guacamole). Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/dallman6.html WILBER AND FREUD - The Guru Question Continued - Elliot Benjamin Perhaps what we need here is three (or four or five or more) different terms to describe the various shades, degrees, valences, and aspects of being a guru, which would include the benevolent, commercial, destructive, and extreme destructive ramifications. But as I'm not a linguist and have no interest in dedicating the rest of my life to extending and differentiating the definition of the term “guru,” at this point I will conclude by saying that it is all a matter of degree and definition, and that perhaps Groot is on the right track with qualifying that Wilber is a “commercial guru.” Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/benjamin59.html To SUBSCRIBE to this Integral World Newsletter or change your email address, click here: http://www.integralworld.net/pommo/user/subscribe.php To UNSUBSCRIBE, update your account by logging in. For explanation, see: http://www.integralworld.net/nl_faq.html