From: Integral World [frank.visser@eurorscg.nl] Sent: donderdag 15 juni 2006 0:05 To: f.visser3@chello.nl Subject: [personal] Games Pandits Play: A Reply to Ken Wilber's Raging Rant INTEGRAL WORLD MAILING LIST =========================== http://www.integralworld.net Newsletter Nr. 154 Amsterdam, June 15, 2006 *** On June 8 2006 Ken Wilber published a long raging rant on his kenwilber.com blog about (mostly) anonymous critics in general and my person in particular. Since I am the target of this punitive operation, because I host the Integral World website, and express some my own views on integral philosophy in my blog, it is only logical for me to reply. Let me phrase my reponse in the most general way like this: No amount of questions, or questioning of Wilber's model, justifies this type of behavior - ever. *** So, then, here's my response: GAMES PANDITS PLAY "There is, however, something in the posting that really worries me. I have spent long enough in the world of psychospiritual movements and literature to know when people start playing games. These are among the 10 most favorite, although there are many more. All of them are evidenced in Wilber's recent blog posting, and the curious excitement it generates in the Integral Scene... Is this outrageous? Consider it as a test ;-) Those who are "in" will think so; those who are "out" will recognize these features immediately." Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/visser12.html Many Wilber-related blogs have commented on the recent events. In the "Ken Wilber Forum" of INTEGRAL WORLD forum I found a perceptive posting which I'd like to share with you: "SORRY, IT'S JUST OVER YOUR HEAD" "It’s really very simple how these cultic groups defended the indefensible... They play three very simple cards, which can not, NO MATTER WHAT, be trumped. What’s remarkable is that Wilber and his groupies now play those same exact three cards, which are: (1) The Higher Level Card. (2) The Projection Card. (3) The Skillful Means Card. Note that these cards are not designed in any way, shape or form to prompt a discussion or dialogue. What can one possibly say to any of these cards? Nothing…and that is exactly the point. They are designed to end all discussion." Read more: http://www.integralworld.net/overyourhead.html FURTHER ADDITIONS: 06/14/06: Anthony Galli's reply "The Christ Conspiracy" to Ray Harris' article on Christianity has been added to the Reading Room. 06/12/06: Ray Harris' "Reply to Anthony Galli" has been added to the Reading Room. 06/12/06: Ray Harris' "Reply to Chris Dierkes" has been added to the Reading Room. 06/07/06: The essay "Blues for Allah" by Anthony Galli has been added to the Reading Room. 06/07/06: The essay "The myth of islam as a warrior cult" by Anthony Galli has been added to the Reading Room. If you know other people interested in this IW Newsletter, please forward this mail to them. Thanks. To SUBSCRIBE to this Integral World Newsletter or change your email address, click here: http://www.integralworld.net/index.html?newsletter.html To go to the Newsletter Archive, click here: http://www.integralworld.net/index.html?newsletter.html To UNSUBSCRIBE from this Integral World Newsletter, click here: http://frank.e-marketing.eurorscg.net/afmelden.php?a=aa&e=f.visser3@chello.nl&id=3272&m=10 ======================================== Frank Visser, Waterpoortweg 279, 1051 pv, Amsterdam Author of: Ken Wilber: Thought as Passion SUNY 2003 Read all about Ken Wilber : http://www.integralworld.net ========================================